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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #942
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- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 21 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 942
-
- Today's Topics:
- Alinco Advice, Pointers? (2 msgs)
- ANS-232 BULLETINS
- ARRL Southwestern Division Convention
- Buy a rig in Hongkong?
- Can you 6M U.S. coast to coast?
- Code Learning s/w for a MAC (2 msgs)
- FCC license renewal processing time data point
- Hams in New Orleans? (2 msgs)
- Knife-edge diffraction an
- Rigs in Dish Washers
- Why Some people hate Wayne Green
-
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-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 12:17:19 -0700
- From: swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!ddsw1!godot.cc.duq.edu!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Alinco Advice, Pointers?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have an Alinco DJ-560 HT.
-
- One evening, while driving, I attempted to plug in the power supply.
- Unfortunately, I touched the PS lead to the external speaker jack located
- just above the PS jack. This appeared to have knocked out the audio
- circuit.
-
- I was wondering:
-
- 1) Exactly what did I damage?
-
- 2) Any pointers to a reasonable, honest, & competent repair tech are
- greatly appreciated. I would prefer the person to be located in the
- Denver/Boulder area, but will not rule out repair by mail.
-
- Please respond via e-mail.
- Many TIA *
-
- '73, de wa2ko/0
- --
- Daniel S. Notov, Consultant @Large
- danno@large.com
- "Push the Button, Frank!" MST3K
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 17:58:05 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Alinco Advice, Pointers?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <danno-210894121720@slip155.rmii.com>, danno@large.com (Daniel
- S. Notov) writes:
-
- .. I have an Alinco DJ-560 HT.
-
- ..One evening, while driving, I attempted to plug in the power supply.
- ..Unfortunately, I touched the PS lead to the external speaker jack
- located
- ..just above the PS jack. This appeared to have knocked out the audio
- ..circuit.
-
- ..I was wondering:
-
- ..1) Exactly what did I damage?
-
- ..2) Any pointers to a reasonable, honest, & competent repair tech are
- ..greatly appreciated. I would prefer the person to be located in the
- ..Denver/Boulder area, but will not rule out repair by mail.
-
- ..Please respond via e-mail.
- ..Many TIA *
-
- ..'73, de wa2ko/0
- --
-
- Try plugging in an earphone and see if you still have audio. If you do,
- you can probably fix it yourself, easily. If you do have audio w/earphone
- send me a note and i'll send ya a little speaker replacement instruction.
-
- Your friend,
- Jeff KE4AUT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 94 15:31:39 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ANS-232 BULLETINS
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-232.01
- DOVE-OSCAR-17 STATUS REPORT
-
- HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 232.01 FROM AMSAT HQ
- SILVER SPRING, MD AUGUST 20, 1994
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
- BID: $ANS-232.01
-
- DOVE-OSCAR-17 (DO-17) Status Report
-
- After extensive development and testing on the ground, another in a series
- of planned software and hardware tests was activated in the DOVE (DO-17)
- satellite on 8/3/94 at about 04:40 UTC.
-
- This software sends ASCII telemetry for 90 seconds, then a sequence of 8
- tones from the on-board digital-to-analog converter (DAC) followed by three
- repetitions of the "Hi this is DOVE..." phrase from the voice synthesizer.
- There is also a new line of status information sent occasionally for test
- and debugging purposes called VSTAT. It contains data useful to developers
- and engineers. The purpose of this software is to test the DAC, the two way
- connection between the 68HC11 processor in the DOVE module and the V40 main
- processor in the computer module, and various software components and
- techniques.
-
- The sequence of tones is created by sending digital values to the DAC that
- generate a pseudo sign wave. It is not intended to simulate a musical
- scale. However, the tone frequencies do span the nominal audio frequency
- range of the modulator/transmitter string so they can be used to measure
- frequency response of the spacecraft hardware.
-
- While DOVE may not sound much different to listeners, hardware components
- never before activated are in use, along with new software techniques
- essential to the full exercise of DOVE's capabilities. It is worth noting
- that some of the hardware used in this test has been idle for 4 1/2 years
- in space, yet worked perfectly the first time.
-
- With this critical test successfully completed, the development and
- operations team expects continue to expand DOVE's capabilities.
-
- [The AMSAT News Service would like to thank WD0E and the DOVE Team
- for this bulletin item.]
-
- /EX
- SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-232.02
- PHASE-3D INTEGRATION IN ORLANDO
-
- HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 232.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
- SILVER SPRING, MD AUGUST 20, 1994
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
- BID: $ANS-232.02
-
- PHASE-3D Spacecraft Integration To Has Begun
-
- Dick Jansson, AMSAT-NA's Vice President for Engineering, announces that
- progress preparing the Phase 3D spaceframe to receive its various modules
- is progressing well. He adds that one of the recent factors which greatly
- assisted this progress was the visit of Konrad Mueller DG7FDQ to the
- Orlando, Florida Integration Facility. Dick said that Konrad was a
- tireless worker during his short stay in Orlando, not getting any time to
- visit the beach or even Disney World. Those American "slave drivers" kept
- his attention glued to the Phase-3D task, Jansson commented. One of the
- last of the tasks completed, before departing for the airport for his trip
- home, was the bonding of final two equipment panels and heat pipes to the
- main structure.
-
- AMSAT-NA President Bill Tynan (W3XO) comments that we greatly appreciate
- the corporation of AMSAT-DL in loaning Konrad Mueller to us so that this
- vital work could be accomplished in record time and with the high quality
- required in the construction of the Phase-3D satellite.
-
- /EX
- SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-232.03
- PHASE-3D PRESENTATIONS AT SURREY
-
- HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 232.03 FROM AMSAT HQ
- SILVER SPRING, MD AUGUST 20, 1994
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
- BID: $ANS-232.03
-
- Phase 3D Presentations at the Surrey Satellite Conference
-
- Last week's ANS bulletins presented summaries of some of the papers
- presented at the International Amateur Satellite Conference held at the
- University of Surrey in England between July 29 and August 1. This week's
- bulletin includes more of the material presented on Phase-3D.
-
- One interesting features presented on Phase-3D was in a paper by Dr. Karl
- Meinzer DJ4ZC and read by Peter Guelzow (DB2OS). It concerned the "LEILA".
- LEILA is a German acronym but basically it is an "anti-alligator device."
- LEILA is designed to seek out extra strong signals in the passband. It
- will initially transmit a Morse warning to the offender telling him or her
- to reduce power. If that goes unheeded, it will insert 18 dB of attenuation
- on the frequency of the offending signal. It was stated that LEILA will be
- able to handle up to five such notches simultaneously.
-
- Peter also discussed the two RUDAKs computer planned for Phase 3D-RUDAK-E
- and RUDAK-U. The "E" stands for experimental and the "U" for users.
- RUDAK-U will use AX25 pacsat protocols with six uplinks and one or two down-
- links at 1200 and 9600 bps, and perhaps faster. The ramdisk should be 16
- to 32 MBits. A mailbox is expected. RUDAK-E, similar to the computer on
- AO-21, and is intended to support experiments with DSP front-ends for soft-
- ware modems at low and medium speeds such as 1200, 9600 and 19200 bps.
- Also on the cards is a regenerative modem faster than 64 Kbps and possibly
- one modem at about 500 Kbps. This will probably use 2400 MHz for one of
- the links and require 10 Watts of output from P3D and a 1 meter dish for
- the ground user.
-
- In his talk, G6GEJ presented details on the 2M transmitter he has been
- building for Phase-3D. It is designed to operate from the 10.7 MHz I.F and
- uses conventional linear amplification. Mike impressed the group with the
- prototype of the unit, which he displayed at the meeting.
-
- Hans van Groenendaal ZS5AKV described the 10 meter transmitter being
- designed and built in South Africa. It will use Compatible Amplitude
- Modulation (CAM) so that it can be received on simple short wave radios.
- Transmissions are to consist of 15 minutes of digitally generated audio.
- The system is intended mainly for educational purposes. It was noted that
- test transmissions from ZS6SRL using CAM can be heard on 10.125 MHz at 0800
- UTC and 1700 UTC Mondays. The signal is beamed toward Europe.
-
- /EX
- SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-232.04
- WEEKLY OSCAR STATUS REPORTS
-
- HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 232.04 FROM AMSAT HQ
- SILVER SPRING, MD AUGUST 20, 1994
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
- BID: $ANS-232.04
-
- Weekly OSCAR Status Reports: 20-AUG-94
-
- AO-13: Current Transponder Operating Schedule:
- M QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Jul 11 - Sep 12
- Mode-B : MA 0 to MA 90 | Omnis : MA 230 to MA 30
- Mode-BS : MA 90 to MA 120 |
- Mode-S : MA 120 to MA 122 |<- S beacon only
- Mode-S : MA 122 to MA 145 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
- Mode-S : MA 145 to MA 150 |<- S beacon only
- Mode-BS : MA 150 to MA 180 | Blon/Blat 180/0
- Mode-B : MA 180 to MA 256 | Move to attitude 230/0, Sep 12
- ==========================================================================
- N QST *** AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULE *** 1994 Sep 12 - Dec 19
- Mode-B : MA 30 to MA 150 |<- OFF Oct 22 - Nov 07 for eclipses
- Mode-B : MA 150 to MA 190 | max duration 2h 12m
- Mode-BS : MA 190 to MA 218 |
- Mode-S : MA 218 to MA 220 |<- S beacon only
- Mode-S : MA 220 to MA 230 |<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF
- Mode-B : MA 230 to MA 30 | Alon/Alat 230/0
- Omnis : MA 250 to MA 140 | Move to attitude 180/0, Dec 19
- The battery charge state is of paramount importance during the eclipse
- seasons. As always the command team may have to have to make temporary
- changes to the published schedule. In that case we will try to minimize
- the inconvenience, setting Mode-B OFF from MA 230-256 in the first
- instance.
- ==========================================================================
- [G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR]
-
- RS-10: NO1R has been enjoying RS-10's Mode A operation at his QTH near
- Boston. On several mid-Atlantic passes he has worked and confirmed G3ASM
- in grid square IO94 and F9HR in grid square JN18 near Paris. Robert (F9HR),
- appears to be very active and NO1R has heard him on both morning and evening
- passes. Last week, DH5ROB/TF, answered his CQ from Iceland. NO1R used to
- pass up these low angle mid-Atlantic passes, but now he has worked some of
- of his best DX on these passes. NO1R also adds that all these DX contacts
- were done using CW. [NO1R]
-
- AO-16: AO-16 is up and running well. [WH6I]
-
- KO-25: WH6I reports that KO-25 is up and running. He is having some trouble
- getting reliable data from it, however, and can't seem to find the problem.
- It's either in the bird, or he feels that he has got some new local inter-
- ference on the downlink frequency. He is still checking. [WH6I]
-
- KO-23: KO-23 On-Board-Computer (OBC) software crashed about one week ago.
- The engineers at the KAIST are currently downloading memory images for
- debugging purposes. Software reloading and packet service will not be
- carried out until the code dump process finished, which hopefully be
- completed by next Tuesday. [Hyungshin Kim (hskim@casaturn.kaist.ac.kr)]
-
- The AMSAT NEWS Service (ANS) is looking for volunteers to contribute weekly
- OSCAR status reports. If you have a favorite OSCAR which you work on a
- regular basis and would like to contribute to this bulletin, please send
- your observations to WD0HHU at his CompuServe address of 70524,2272, on
- INTERNET at wd0hhu@amsat.org, or to his local packet BBS in the Denver, CO
- area, WD0HHU @ N0QCU. Also, if you find that the current set of orbital
- elements are not generating the correct AOS/LOS times at your QTH, PLEASE
- INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. The information you provide will be of
- value to all OSCAR enthusiasts.
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 08:17:47 PDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!crash!bssbbs!tmill493@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL Southwestern Division Convention
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Just a quick note to remind you that the 1994 ARRL Southwestern Division
- convention is this coming weekend, Aug 26-28. It will be held at the Town
- and Country Hotel and Convention Center here in the Mission Valley area
- of San Diego. There will be lots to do with are sorts of technical
- sessions and forums. If you are within driving distance, and want to have
- a lot of fun in Americas Finest City, come on down. Registration is at
- $15 at the door. Hope to see you then.
-
- 73, Tuck KC6ZEC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 23:11:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!bobw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Buy a rig in Hongkong?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Detlef Marxsen (dema@astrax.hanse.de) wrote:
- : Hello *,
-
- : I'll visit Hongkong in a few weeks and would like to buy a 2 m / 70 cm
- : handy over there.
- : Can anyone recommend shops in Hongkong?
- : Is anyone living in Hongkong reading this?
-
- : Tnx,
- : Detlef.
-
- There's gobs of places to buy ham equipment in Hong Kong.
- Some of the shops are along Nathan Road.
-
- My observations:
- 1. I was surprised how many older models are still in stock
- over there (IC-02AT, TH-26AT, etc.).
- 2. Be very careful which version of radio you buy.
- There are different versions for various parts of the
- world to match local band plans, etc.
- 3. I didn't think the prices were all *that* great anyway.
-
-
- Bob Witte / bobw@col.hp.com / Hewlett Packard / PMO / KB0CY / (719) 590-3230
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 08:13:49 PDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!crash!bssbbs!tmill493@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Can you 6M U.S. coast to coast?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) writes:
-
- > Steve Phillips (srphillips@ccgate.dp.beckman.com) wrote:
- > : Can you 6M U.S. coast to coast?
- > : If so, how much power and what antenna type is best?
-
- I use a Comet vertical, and was able to reach the east coast back in May.
- Other folks use a beam. On 6, you just get lucky. I guess that is why
- they call it the magic band.
-
-
- I usually try and monitor 50.125 SSB every morning, and if the band opens
- up, I try and be there. Hope to talk with you, and anyone else that is
- lurking on the "magic band".
-
- 73, Tuck KC6ZEC San Diego
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 17:41:47 GMT
- From: tymix.Tymnet.COM!niagara!flanagan@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Code Learning s/w for a MAC
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <336bmn$9s4@search01.news.aol.com> tstader@aol.com (TSTADER) writes:
- >There is an excellent prgram called Morse Trainer 1.1.1... the guys on AOL
- >that have used it love it!
-
- Doesn't this program come with=out= any files designed to teach the code?
- If so, has anyone written any teaching files for it?
-
- 73, Dick
- --
- Dick Flanagan, W6OLD w6old@wa6ewv.#nocal.ca.usa.na
- dick@libelle.com CIS:73672,751 GEnie:FLANAGAN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 19:10:03 -0400
- From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Code Learning s/w for a MAC
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <3383kr$3o4@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, flanagan@niagara.Tymnet.COM
- (Dick Flanagan) writes:
-
- >Doesn't this program come with=out= any files designed to teach the code?
- >If so, has anyone written any teaching files for it?
-
- I am pretty sure it is complete... have you checked it out and find it is
- NOT complete?
-
- Terry
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 09:12:34
- From: nwnexus!olympus.net!olympus.net!vaughnwt@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: FCC license renewal processing time data point
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Aug19.214829.24366@VFL.Paramax.COM> rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) writes:
-
- >I mailed my 610 for a simple renewal (no call change, no address change, etc)
- >directly to Gettysburg on July 18. My new license is effective August 15,
- >was postmarked August 17, and arrived today, August 19. The new effective
- >date is exactly 4 weeks from my 610 mailing date.
-
- >Just makes you wonder, how much more work can it be to issue a new license
- >vs. process a renewal? 17 weeks vs. 4 weeks? I guess there are just less
- >applications in the renewal pipeline and they push them right through...
-
- >Well now I am good for another 10 years :-)
-
- >Pete Rossi - WA3NNA rossi@vfl.paramax.COM
-
- MY last HAM class all recieved there license in four weeks. This was at the
- time everyone here was screaming about a 17 week delay. I never saw it. The
- FCC seems to be in gear now and working pretty smooth. Now is a good time to
- send a letter to the FCC recognizing good work. Or we could just be a bunch of
- whiners that only squawk when things aren't going just right. My letter is in
- the e- mail.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 21:19:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!tulane!rs1.tcs.tulane.edu!mike@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Hams in New Orleans?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for hams or ham clubs in Metairie, LA. My son is studying
- for his Technician's License at the encluragement of his aunts, uncles
- and Grandparents in Alabama. He will be ready to take the test soon
- so we need to find someone who can give it too him.
-
- Thanks in advance
- Mike Pilman
-
- P.S. Please respond by e-mail. I will forward the information on
- to anyone who is interested.
-
- mike@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 1994 19:26:01 -0400
- From: meaddata!swiss.ans.net!newstf01.cr1.aol.com!search01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Hams in New Orleans?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <338gd8$mrn@news.cs.tulane.edu>, mike@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
- (Michael Pilman) writes:
-
- The Jefferson Amateur Radio Club schedules tests from time to time, If
- you listen on thier repeater, you may hear this announced. Also, hamfests
- are a good source of test opportunites. There's a hamfest in Gonzales
- September 17, 1994 at the Gonzales Recreation Center. If you want more
- info, write to AARC, 40390 Sycamore AVe, Gonzales,LA 70737, or call
- (504)622-3598. The New Orleans hamfest comes up November 26, 1994 at the
- St. Bernard Cultural Center in Challmette. If you need info, write to
- P.O. Box 51822, New Orleans,LA 70152-1822. Hope this helps.
-
- Jon - KB5IAV
- River Ridge,LA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 13:32:00 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!cencore!forrest.gehrke@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Knife-edge diffraction an
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- EG>While there's plenty written about knife-edge diffraction, it's
- EG>mostly concerned with VHF-and-up propagation. As frequency
- EG>decreases, diffraction loss will decrease, which suggests that
- EG>at HF it wouldn't be too lossy a process. This would assume that
- EG>the diffracting obstacle is large in comparison with the wavelength,
- EG>but in many cases that shouldn't be a problem.
-
- The effect is seen regularly during the winter on 80 meters.
- Along about 3:30PM EST (20:30 UTC) before sundown, Europeans
- can be heard with good signals but its no use calling them.
- They do not hear us. This is due to knife-edge diffraction.
- It does happen at HF, even as low as 80M.
-
- ---k2bt
- ---
- │ SLMR 2.1a │ Never test the depth of a river with both feet.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 94 19:26:25 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Rigs in Dish Washers
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Back In The Olde Days, Tektronix the 'scope people had a tub of water and
- detergent at their repair sites. When a scope can in for repair, it first
- went into the tub for a wash, then hose down and dry.
-
- Now, no other company built things the way Tektronix did Way Back Then
- (ceramic terminal strips, etc), and I doubt that anyone does it that way
- now.
-
- Just a hysterical *** oops *** historical note.
-
- 73 de Bob w3otc@amsat.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Aug 94 12:00:25 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!ulowell!aspen.uml.edu!martinja@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Why Some people hate Wayne Green
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CuunEJ.KHo@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu
- (Gordon Couger) writes:
-
- > I've followed Wayne for a lot of years. Probably his most annoying quality
- > is it turns out that he is right an awful lot of the time.
-
- Hey ya know? It's funny as I have noticed the same thing. I have also
- noticed that [insert Sara Lee song here] everybody doesn't like something.
- Ya always got those that do and those that don't, e.g. consider the ARRL too.
-
- I think Luck Hurder, KY1T, said it best and in a nutshell:
- [paraphrased] "Posting via this mode is rather LOUD." So, someone we would
- not normally hear in voice conversation would have our undivided attention as
- we read his/her post. [deja vu]
-
- I've been reading Never Say die since about 1979. I find many of Wayne's
- ideas interesting and entertaining. I don't like everything he says or
- stands for. But you have to remember if it wasn't for Wayne Green, Christopher
- Columbus would have never discovered Vespucciland. 8-D
-
- > I do not speak for my employer
-
- I speak for no one....nor myself for that matter |D
-
- 73 de WK1V
- -jim-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 12:24:42 -0500
- From: news.delphi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <32ua9p$m0n@adm09.iac.honeywell.com>, <CuunEJ.KHo@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, <1994Aug21.120025.1@aspen.uml.edu>ACO
- Subject : Re: Why Some people hate Wayne Green
-
- <martinja@aspen.uml.edu> writes:
-
- >(Gordon Couger) writes:
- >
- >> I've followed Wayne for a lot of years. Probably his most annoying quality
- >> is it turns out that he is right an awful lot of the time.
- >
- >Hey ya know? It's funny as I have noticed the same thing. I have also
- >noticed that [insert Sara Lee song here] everybody doesn't like something.
-
-
- Wayne may be a bit of an agitator (GO WAYNE!!), but i think that a fair
- assessment of any animosity would include these facts:
-
- 1. You don't agree with him, but he ends up being right
- 2. you don't agree with him but he seems to be making a living
- 3. You don't agree with him but how many people know who YOU are?
- 4. you don't agree with him, but...
-
- i think the point has been made. There is room in this hobby, as in
- Real Life ;-) for all opinions, even ones that you do not like. If your
- ideas are so much better, step to the line...
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- p.s., agreeing with wayne regarding spectrum management or licensing
- does not make you a homophobe!
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- "73"
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- pete brunelli
- n1qdq
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